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Seems fairly balanced except for the fact that it does this at first level, while magic missile scales with level and requires 9 levels for max damage. I d probably allow someone to throw them like a Shuriken, with only one being able to hit with the potential to do a critical, the other two just along for the ride.

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How many magic stones can you throw?

The text states the stones are pebbles. So how many pebbles can you throw in one round? Logically, you should be able to throw quite a few, almost as many as you can hold in one hand.

But from a rules standpoint, it stands to reason only one per attack, which is kind of stupid. I can throw a handful of rocks and hit a man-sized target from 20 feet easily.
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Darklone

Registered User

Leon the profi: There is rulezz.

Yeah one per round (assuming one attack by BAB). With Rapid Shot two. With Ambi and Twoweapon three.

If that makes sense: Ask me how many arrows I can shoot in 6 seconds. Do I have Rapid Shot?

JRRNeiklot

First Post

Arrows are a whole different animal. So you're saying, I can't throw a handful of gravel at someone?
I must throw one pebble at a time? If that's the case, then the same logic would mean you couldn't throw sand in someone's face except one grain at a time.

I'm not trying to be belligerent, just trying to figure out why you can't chunk three stones as one attack.

Darklone

Registered User

Cause if you wanna hurt someone with a pebble, you gotta hit where it hurts. That means, armour will greatly reduce your chance. You can't just hurl a load of pebbles at a guy in full platemail and expect him to drop like a virgin.

Ernst

First Post

JRRNeiklot

First Post

Yes, but that's no ordinary rabbit! Uh, wait, wrong topic.

These are not ordinary pebbles. From the phb: "they strike with great force when thrown. "

I'd say a hand ful of gravels could be thrown at a guy in plate. They'd just do no damage. Magic stones, however, do 1d6+1, so, if you can throw a handful of non-magical pebbles, you should be able to throw a handful of magical ones, no?

Is there a rule clarification on this? We can discuss this till we're blue in the face, but I wondered if there was an official ruling. I could email the sage, but I'd be 90 before I got a reply. Plus, I'm lazy.

Darklone

Registered User

JRRNeiklot

First Post

You can indeed use them as sling bullets. But a sling is like a bow, there is only room for one stone or arrow. A hand, however, can hold and throw more than one object at once.

Darklone

Registered User

JRRNeiklot

First Post

I dunno about 10, but 3 sounds reasonable. I guess I'm misinterpreting the text. "Strike with great force" sounds to me like you just toss them and they impact a lot harder than normal. Kinda like a 90 pound weakling throwing them, but they hit as if Randy Johnson had chunked them at you.

Happiest_Sadist

First Post

Take 3 golf balls(about the right size for sling bullets), and throw them with one hand. Can you get them to go the way you want them too? No, my guess is that you can't get even 1 to hit what you want to hit. Also, you can't throw them all as hard.

Vanye

Explorer

Take 3 golf balls(about the right size for sling bullets), and throw them with one hand. Can you get them to go the way you want them too? No, my guess is that you can't get even 1 to hit what you want to hit. Also, you can't throw them all as hard.

Like a Shuriken?

I'd probably allow someone to throw them like a Shuriken, with only one being able to hit with the potential to do a critical, the other two just along for the ride.

Caliber

Explorer

Do not forget that Shuriken are exotic weapons BECAUSE you throw 3 at a time. If that was something you could do with sling bullets (or anything else for that matter) there would be little point.

I always imagined Magic Stone as something of a force multiplier. You might put X amount of force into that sling bullet, but your magic stone spell will make it hit with 2 or 3X instead. If you don't actually chuck it at a weak spot with enough force, magic stone won't do anything for you.

Negative Zero

First Post

AARRRGGHHHH.
how about this, it's MAGIC.
in my game you throw all three immediately following the casting

JRRNeiklot

First Post

Originally posted by Happiest_Sadist:

"Take 3 golf balls(about the right size for sling bullets), and throw them with one hand. Can you get them to go the way you want them too? No, my guess is that you can't get even 1 to hit what you want to hit. Also, you can't throw them all as hard."

I guarantee you, I can hit a man-sized target with three golfballs from twenty feet. Sling bullets, however, are much smaller than a golf ball - about the size of a twenty-sider, maybe slightly larger.

Darklone

Registered User

I guarantee you, I can hit a man-sized target with three golfballs from twenty feet. Sling bullets, however, are much smaller than a golf ball - about the size of a twenty-sider, maybe slightly larger.

Do you throw all three golfballs at once or in rapid repetition? Cause I can throw three shuriken at once and they hit due to some magical property called aerodynamics, but I cannot do the same with three small pebbles or d20s.

Yes, I throw d20s at players now and then

NegZero: Gosh you are boring. We try to have a discussion here !

Dr. Zoom

First Post

I don't think the spell intended a first level cleric to be able to do 6d6+6 damage to a skeleton or zombie in one round. I allow one stone per attack. If you get two attacks per round, you can throw two stones (or sling two stones).

Negative Zero

First Post

I don't think the spell intended a first level cleric to be able to do 6d6+6 damage to a skeleton or zombie in one round. I allow one stone per attack. If you get two attacks per round, you can throw two stones (or sling two stones).

well, none of those hits are garunteed are they? you still actually have to hit with the stones.

apologies o Dark one i try not to be too repeative by saying the same thing over and over and over and . nevermind . how about this:

coming from a culture that seems to grow every child as an expert marksman in stone throwing (St.Lucia . i kid you not!) i most certainly can throw three stones in six seconds at a man sized target 20 feet away and likely hit with all three of them. all at once or in rapid succession.

hell, i used to throw stones at the slim trunk of a coconut tree some 50-60 odd feet away and hit about 75% of the time . keep in mind these were the ordinary variety, not the magical ones enchanted to hit easier or harder

Tony Vargas

Legend

They're thrown weapons and there's no special rule for it, so, by default, you can throw one per attack you can make in the round.

Since they're so tiny, I'd see nothing horribly wrong, conceptually, with throwing all three at once like a set of shurikens. Of course, you'd only get any damage bonuses due to STR, point blank shot, etc, /once/, as with shuriken. I'd seriously consider changing the durration to 1 round, though, if I allowed that, so you couldn't go pre-creating dozens of the things and tossing hadfuls of them. If you wanted to create them as sling-bullets, the regular durration'd be fine, though.

JRRNeiklot

First Post

Do you throw all three golfballs at once or in rapid repetition? Cause I can throw three shuriken at once and they hit due to some magical property called aerodynamics, but I cannot do the same with three small pebbles or d20s.

Yes, I throw d20s at players now and then

NegZero: Gosh you are boring. We try to have a discussion here !

Ok, for what it's worth, I performed the following experiment:

I took 3 golf balls and from twenty feet or so, threw them all at once with one arm motion at a target drawn in chalk at the back of the shop. Every time I hit with the middle golf ball striking about where I intended. There was not much difference between that and a single thrown ball. The other two seemed to strike a bit higher and lower, respectively than the center one. I didn't try it with twenty-siders cuz its not worth losing dice over!

Anyway, it seems to me that it is easily done with at most a -2 to the extra two shots. Call it a minus two to all three to keep in line with twf and rapid shot.

However, that brings us back to the question of balance. Logically, it can be done, but D&D is not a logical game. Is it too powerful for a first level spell? Well, magic missile does up to 5d4+5, this one does a max of 3d6+3 and requires three to hit rolls. Also, like shuriken, any strength bonus or extra dice should be applied only once. Seems fairly balanced except for the fact that it does this at first level, while magic missile scales with level and requires 9 levels for max damage.

I'm not trying to be belligerent, just trying to figure out why you can't chunk three stones as one attack.

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