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What do you think about stove pipe heat reclaimers? Anybody have em?

I found out this winter for the first time in three years that my Quadrafire 5700 with a fan installed will not quite heat my house when it gets really cold for more than a few days.
My thoughts are that my epa stove burning really clean should not make a dirty chimney when the exhaust is cooled from the pipe reclaimer. 95% of the time there's no visible smoke coming from my chimney. I have a probe thermometer in my pipe and the temp is north of 500 deg often and I'm thinking a stove pipe heat reclaimer would blow the extra heat I need for those really cold days.

doubletrouble

ArboristSite Operative

I have one in the basement on my wood furnace. It does blow some heat into the basement which helps to further dry my firewood stacked down there and helps to warm our wood floors upstairs. The one I have is a single speed blower. I believe they make them with 2 speeds also. I had one before made by Magic Heat that had 2 speeds. It did a little more than the one I have now. I like them, they make use of the heat you would normally loose out the chimney. Just my $.02

firebrick43

Life is all about big saws

epa stoves are very touchy about flue temps and draft and is why they typically recommend double wall stove pipe. Putting a heat reclaimer more than likely will reduce draft and cause issues with the stove unless you already have to much draft. Lots of if and butts but we don't know your conditions. Is you wood really dry? Stored under cover and a year old(two years oak) More moisture it has the more heat is used to make the moisture into steam?

ttyR2

ArboristSite Guru

Yep. pulling heat out of the flue gasses will cause them to slow down and be more likely to create creosote buildup.

zogger

Tree Freak

I would think on a smoke dragon they would work well, but if you already have a baffled stove or catalyst stove, etc, not so good.

CTYank

Peripatetic Sawyer

I would think on a smoke dragon they would work well, but if you already have a baffled stove or catalyst stove, etc, not so good.

Not likely, when you consider the amount of poo in the stack gas that can be condensed. Chimney-fire-city!

chadihman

Addicted to ArboristSite

epa stoves are very touchy about flue temps and draft and is why they typically recommend double wall stove pipe. Putting a heat reclaimer more than likely will reduce draft and cause issues with the stove unless you already have to much draft. Lots of if and butts but we don't know your conditions. Is you wood really dry? Stored under cover and a year old(two years oak) More moisture it has the more heat is used to make the moisture into steam?

I have good draft and when a fire is established I shut my stove almost all the way down because my draft pulls really hard when its hot. Really the only time I would use the fan on the reclaimer would be when its really cold and I wouldn't mind a reduction in draft cause it pulls hard when its 15 deg or less outside.

chadihman

Addicted to ArboristSite

I would think on a smoke dragon they would work well, but if you already have a baffled stove or catalyst stove, etc, not so good.

I would think a heat reclaimer would be a bad idea on a smoke dragon. The temperature in the chimney needs to be hot to keep all the creosote carrying smoke out and not sticking to your liner.

My quad 5700 really displays an awesome secondary burn. It uses air tubes in the ceiling of the firebox. The fresh warmed air pulls through the holes in the air tubes and ignites all the gasses leaving not even a wisp of smoke out of the chimney. If it burns clean in the firebox there's no creosote or smoke exiting the stove. As said I think the only problem with a reclaimer on an epa stove would be a reduction of flue temperature causing a reduction in draft. Draft is needed to pull the fresh air charge in for a complete secondary burn.

Chris-PA

Where the Wild Things Are

It's an interesting question - when my secondary combustion stove is burning properly the total area of air intake is quite small, so the volume of gasses going up the flue is not going to be large. I would be concerned that while the temperatures may be high in the flue gases, if the volume is low the heat reclaimer may cool it rapidly. On the other hand, I'd bet my flue would pull well enough to use one, and if it's really burning clean it might be effective. Unfortunately I cannot mount one on mine or I might be tempted to try it.

stihly dan

Addicted to ArboristSite

I had an epa stove that was getting way to much draft, had a hell of a time regulating the stove. I put in a magic heat and it helped with the draft a bit and gave me tons more heat in the basement. No creosote problems at all.

zogger

Tree Freak

Not likely, when you consider the amount of poo in the stack gas that can be condensed. Chimney-fire-city!

Smoke dragons burn hot, it's the only way to get heat out of them, and they keep burning up the stack somewhat. What screws up smoke dragons the most ( besides green wood) is clamping that damper down. A magic heat type exchanger slows it down, but allows the same volume of air in and through, and I don't think slows it down to the degree a regular damper wood. it isn't restricted, it is more diverted into the small tubes.

Not seeing it therefore creating more creosote, if anything, should be less. I think you are supposed to run them in lieu of any damper anyway. Heat is staying down in the firebox and flue longer, without being starved for oxygen, so it is burning the gases more. I know with my smogger, you rarely see any visible smoke. Now I burn too much wood, this is true, but I get very little creosote either.

Years previous when I burned smoke dragons with a damper, just crap, absurd crap, yes, creosote, got plugged up, just stoopid bad, nutso. I was incredulous thyat this "they" guy said to use one. I have yet to figure out why, unless you like crawling around your roof in the winter with a brush.

Lose the damper, learn to use size and species of wood and air intake only for heat output, works MUCH better. I burn hot fires..of different sizes.

but..I never tried a magic heat either, so I can't 100% say one way or the other. But I would not put one on a newer stove with secondaries and so on.

And I still think russian masony is the best thought out, most practical of all the woodheat methods. No moving parts, absolutely burns clean or self cleans, nice even heat, no metal to burn out/warp/corrode, no electricity needed, and so on.

As to someone saying you need the OWB because you need the hot water as, there's got to be a way to have a maintenance accessible water coil incorporated into a russian masonry unit, if you really wanted hot water from it as well. They incorporate ovens into them, that could just as easily be the hot water heater tank preheater coil in there.

I just do not want pumps and so on and being tied to the electricity. I don't like plumbing, and I don't trust plumbing in an emergency, don't want to be tied to some company weeks away by mailorder for parts, etc.. I have a well, so tied to it, but I dang sure don't want my heat tied to that sort of stuff. Epic fail when you need it the most potential. Same with a stove or furnace, don't want fans,pumps, etc. Solid state, no moving parts other than a door handle and whatever for the air intake.

I have one in the basement on my wood furnace. It does blow some heat into the basement which helps to further dry my firewood stacked down there and helps to warm our wood floors upstairs. The one I have is a single speed blower. I believe they make them with 2 speeds also. I had one before made by Magic Heat that had 2 speeds. It did a little more than the one I have now. I like them, they make use of the heat you would normally loose out the chimney. Just my $.02

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